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Neale Backhouse | nealebackh~AT~gmail~DOT~com
I must apologise Alex for my flippant request. The result of a lifetime of jealousy and intrigue about a rival for Liz's attention. I'm guessing that the Ken Fothergill connection runs through Andy Kinlato, who was in S2 math class with us at night school and Derek Calthorpe, who was a fellow apprentice in the drawing office at Readheads and who may have played soccer with you in the JOC League. Both Andy and Derek knew Ken.
Why jealousy at 87, that no one but me could care a jot about. Well, Ken made a move on Liz way back when, attended by his 500cc Triumph Tiger motorbike. After being initially dazzled by the attention, (to quote the iron Duke at waterloo, "It was near run thing" for a while) but Liz finally decided that she preferred an ogre like me rather than to the flambuoyant fitter.
liz caught sight of this effort today and blew up, so I must refrain from any Prince Harry type revelations. I'll just leave it there and let it simmer in the irrelevance it deserves.
My God. still jealous at 87! Sorry to draw you in to all this Alex.
Cheers, Neale.
Thu 26-Jan-2023 01:51 - Victoria BC.
Alex Patterson 1946 - 1951 VUA | ad1935ap~AT~gmail~DOT~com
Hello All, (Neale in particular)
Ken Fothergill is a name I recognize but I know nothing about him and have no memory of him. I knew Andy Kinelato very well having played on the same team as him for South Shields Boys’ Brigade for a few years approx. 1957-1960 in the J.O.C. League. We must have had a pretty good team because in the Saturday Sports edition of the Gazette (Green pages) the whole team was charicatured by Dodge, the sports cartoonist for the Gazette. I have a copy of it somewhere and sent it to Janis Blower who printed it in her column, ‘Cookson Country’.
But back to Andy Kinelato. How did you think I would know him? I think he died in his twenties shortly after we played on the same team. He was a great player and could certainly thump the ball around and he was a nice guy too…I think his parents had a grocery store on Bertram Street.
So what’s the story? I’m intrigued, to say the least, and surprised that Andy Kinelato’s name is part of it. Please tell the tale of Fothergill/Kinelato.
Waiting with bated breath.
Alex Patterson,
From a snowy, cold and windy North York.
Wed 25-Jan-2023 06:03 - North York, Ontario, Canada
Eric Moyse | eric~DOT~moyse~AT~sky~DOT~com
So much to cover:
T&G Allan, Glasburg the furrier, M&S bombed, Grants the Jewellers Binns (don't remember the dog) all gone from a time when Shields could boast some quality shops. The reference to seamen's clothing surely refers to Barbours, now an international firm of tremendous reputation and still claiming correctly to be a South Shields firm.( There was another Mechant Navy outfitters, Woods of Ocean Road.
PS Glad to learn of your improved health, Mike
Wed 18-Jan-2023 12:40 - Reading, Berkshire
Eric Moyse | eric~DOT~moyse~AT~sky~DOT~com
A rather late Happy New Year to all of my fellow-contributors.
Anyone who follows the online Gazette "South Tyneside Today," will be aware of the renowned artist, Sheila Graber. For this year she has produced a calendar of local drawings,which Doreen and I bought and which we can thoroughly recommend. As it happens, Doreen taught with Sheila for a while and so I asked Sheila for a favour. If you walk along th path by the North Beach (all right, Littlehaven) there you will find the complete words of "Blow the Wind Southerly." The last time I was along there the paintwork was badly faded and so I have asked Sheila to use her good offices to get the feature restored: of course she agreed. Have a look for yourselves next time you are in the town. If you want a calendar, google Sheila and take it from there.
Regards
Eric
Wed 18-Jan-2023 12:25 - Reading, Berkshire
Backhouse.
My God Alex!! That memory of yours!!
Did you ever run across, or know a Ken Fothergill,a fitter at Readheads,probably friend of Kinlato's. If so I have a story.
Mon 16-Jan-2023 17:04 - Vic BC
Alex Patterson VUA 1946-1951 | ad1935ap~AT~gmail~DOT~com
Hello Mike and the thousands of readers/contributors, including Alan Whittaker,
Yes Alan I remember that dog at Binns, but I can’t remember whether the slot for donations was on the top of its head or in the box/plinth that it was sitting on. I’m getting it mixed up with one that was outside a pharmacy when I was in the RAF in Scotland. Apart from that I remember it being moved from entrance to entrance but mainly on the King Street entrances.
Speaking of Binns,I used to buy all my suits, shirts, shoes etc. at Binns when I started work, and I bought Cavalry Twills and Chukka boots there when they came back into popularity as they did now and again. I liked Binns; when I was courting Marjorie we would meet at Binns on Saturday mornings and go for coffees etc., at The Buttery (I think that was its name) on the third (?) floor, and often met with friends there to catch up on all the news of our contemporaries. I wonder if there is another meeting place like that anymore for young adults.
When we got married we also bought much of our furniture and appliances there, we had a G-Plan sideboard and sectional settee…wish we still had them…I just saw a 1958 sideboard for $6,700 (C.)!! EEeeeeeek!!
I am completely reminisced for the time being and it’s time for “All Creatures Great and Small” so I have to dash off to relax for an hour or two.
Regards,
Alex
From a sunny but cold North York!!
Sat 14-Jan-2023 22:38 - North York, Ontario, Canada
Alan Whittaker(53-59) | alan~DOT~diwhittaker~AT~gmail~DOT~com
Hi All,
Reflecting back does anyone remember the charity model of a black labrador which sat in the entrance to Binns store for many years? I think its name was "Hobo" and any donations were for guidedogs for the blind
Thu 12-Jan-2023 15:29 - Langford Budville, Somerset
Alex Patterson VUA 1946 - 1951 | ad1935ap~AT~gmail~DOT~com
Hello Mike and all readers,
Apropos of T & G Allan’s and fountain pens, the discussion inspired me to checkout my old fountain pens and one newer version. I still have my Parker Junior, and my Esterbrook from High School days, both from T and G Allan’s in King Street I’m not 100% sure about my Schaeffer although it is a close contemporary of that period.
I used my Esterbrook filled with green ink on an history homework submission in my newly adopted leaning to the left handwriting. I got a decent mark from ‘Piggy’ Wade but a terse comment, “Straighten up your writing, use traditional ink. Unmitigated swank!!”
More recently, my eldest daughter, Katherine, bought me a Mont-Blanc fountain pen with a calligraphy tip so I can continue my ‘unmitigated swanky’ writing. She didn’t buy it at T & G A’s but at some store in Toronto and my writing doesn’t seem to lean to the left anymore.
My Parker Junior was a gift from my Mum before I entered High School and I was surprised to find that I wasn’t the only boy with a fountain pen, in fact I was a bit disappointed. One of my favourite pens was my Biro which was frowned upon by Charlie Constable. It was an early model, which tended to leave blobs of ink at any place in a sentence and was quite messy. My Aunt had a convenience store opposite Swan Hunter’s in Wallsend and she would often get unusual things, such as the Biro, in exchange for ciggies from foreign crew members of ships in for repair. She got the Biro from one such customer. She also got me a leather bomber jacket which I wore when I was still in High School until I was in my twenties. Sorry about wandering off topic…I do that frequently these days.
Anyhow, I’ll talk to you soon,
Regards,
Alex
Sun 8-Jan-2023 06:03 - North York, Ontario, Canada
Alan Whittaker(53-59) | alan~DOT~diwhittaker~AT~gmail~DOT~com
Mike, you surely have suffered greatly over the last couple of years. May I send my best wishes for your full recovery.

Ref T&G Allans I think "The Pen Shop" name was adopted after The War. I remember Conway Stewart pens but they were out of my league, I used the less expensive Platignum variety! I think both pens are still being manufactured.

Ref barbers,the father of Sutton Estate resident Malcolm Cottenham (Ex High School) had a small barbers shop down past the Nook.He later moved to an even smaller premises on Chichester Rd near the Chi Pub. He gave me my first "bob cut" and told me that my hair was so thick and strong I would never lose it! Well he got that wrong!!
Wed 4-Jan-2023 11:21 - Langford Budville, Somerset
Mike Todd
"Ouch!" is right - February 2021 I was rushed to hospital in the middle of the night. They weren't sure what it was (at one point, the record show they suspected an aortic aneurism, but later it as gallstones)

Sent home, ended up again the following week and confirmed perforated gall bladder - then sepsis - followed by emergency surgery and a week in hospital.

Had acute kidney infection, and on the edge of kidney failure - and recently have had kidney blocked by a stone. Had two bouts of lithotripsy - still not fully recovered, but still here :-)

I remember the barbers in Binns, although I was usually at a barbers in (I think) Imeary Street.

There used to be a ships chandlers towards the Mill Dam - and was there a surplus store somewhere round the Market Place - but I don't think either was the one you were talking about.

And T&G Allan had a big pen section if I recall - but greetings cards, books and trinkets (great for buying Christmas Presents).

I haven't been in the Morpeth store for a while, but they definitely had a goodly collections of pens.
Tue 3-Jan-2023 20:10 - Rothbury

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